Nutritionists and Dietitians in 85234

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Refined Wellness Nutrition
Nutritionist/Dietitian, MS, RDN, LD
Serves Area
Hi, I’m Cassie, a registered dietitian with experience in clinical and pediatric nutrition. I specialize in helping adults with weight management, PCOS, blood sugar management, and heart health through a holistic lens—and I also support families navigating nutrition challenges with their children.
Hi, I’m Cassie, a registered dietitian with experience in clinical and pediatric nutrition. I specialize in helping adults with weight management, PCOS, blood sugar management, and heart health through a holistic lens—and I also support families navigating nutrition challenges with their children.
(520) 438-8778 View (520) 438-8778
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Kelly Neilson
Nutritionist/Dietitian, MDA, RD, LD
Serves Area
I am passionate about working with individuals struggling with eating disorders (anorexia, bulimia, binge eating disorder, OSFED, ARFID) and disordered eating (such as chronic dieting, compulsive overeating, emotional eating, etc). I know my clients are so much MORE than their eating disorder/disordered eating and I love helping them visualize and achieve their potential. My ideal client is ready to make changes to improve their life, have more freedom with food, and learn to embrace and love their body.
I am passionate about working with individuals struggling with eating disorders (anorexia, bulimia, binge eating disorder, OSFED, ARFID) and disordered eating (such as chronic dieting, compulsive overeating, emotional eating, etc). I know my clients are so much MORE than their eating disorder/disordered eating and I love helping them visualize and achieve their potential. My ideal client is ready to make changes to improve their life, have more freedom with food, and learn to embrace and love their body.
(205) 386-6541 View (205) 386-6541
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Deanne Wilson
Nutritionist/Dietitian, MS, RD
Serves Area
I have been a Registered Dietitian for 22 years specializing in the treatment of eating disorders and disordered eating. I help people change their relationship with food and exercise while promoting positive body image. In addition to providing nutrition education on normal eating, I also address the thoughts and feelings around food. I promote a non-diet approach to health in which all foods can fit into the diet. The goal is for you to develop a positive and healthy relationship with food and your body.
I have been a Registered Dietitian for 22 years specializing in the treatment of eating disorders and disordered eating. I help people change their relationship with food and exercise while promoting positive body image. In addition to providing nutrition education on normal eating, I also address the thoughts and feelings around food. I promote a non-diet approach to health in which all foods can fit into the diet. The goal is for you to develop a positive and healthy relationship with food and your body.
(602) 492-6197 View (602) 492-6197
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Madison Morris
Nutritionist/Dietitian, RDN
Online Only
Between her professional backgrounds in both the arts and sciences and her own health journey as a thyroid cancer survivor, Madison brings a unique blend of skills and experiences to the proverbial table. As a professional ballerina and dance educator, she knows firsthand the importance of nutrition for optimizing performance, recovery, and healing.
Between her professional backgrounds in both the arts and sciences and her own health journey as a thyroid cancer survivor, Madison brings a unique blend of skills and experiences to the proverbial table. As a professional ballerina and dance educator, she knows firsthand the importance of nutrition for optimizing performance, recovery, and healing.
(480) 542-7718 View (480) 542-7718

More Dietitians and Nutritionists Nearby

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Tailored Bites Nutrition Concierge
Nutritionist/Dietitian, MS, RDN, CPT
Phoenix, AZ 85032
I provide contracted nutrition therapy and cycle menu services for group homes, behavioral health centers, and care facilities. I also offer personal chef services with medically tailored meals prepared in a licensed commercial kitchen. Clients managing weight loss, diabetes, PCOS, or chronic conditions receive macro-balanced support from a dietitian-chef. Tailored Bites Nutrition Concierge blends clinical care with culinary support to help you nourish, heal, and thrive.
I provide contracted nutrition therapy and cycle menu services for group homes, behavioral health centers, and care facilities. I also offer personal chef services with medically tailored meals prepared in a licensed commercial kitchen. Clients managing weight loss, diabetes, PCOS, or chronic conditions receive macro-balanced support from a dietitian-chef. Tailored Bites Nutrition Concierge blends clinical care with culinary support to help you nourish, heal, and thrive.
(480) 470-0330 View (480) 470-0330
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Adam Walz
Nutritionist/Dietitian, RD, LD, ISAK-1
3 Endorsed
Serves Area
Welcome! I’m Adam Walz, a Registered and Licensed Dietitian dedicated to helping people achieve lasting wellness and improved health. I’ve worked with professional and Division I athletes, pregnant and postpartum women, and clients of all ages—from children and adolescents to adults. I hold a Certificate of Training in Adult and Pediatric Obesity (Commission on Dietetic Registration) and I’m certified in the Low Fodmap Diet for IBS management. I provide personalized, evidence-based support tailored to your needs.
Welcome! I’m Adam Walz, a Registered and Licensed Dietitian dedicated to helping people achieve lasting wellness and improved health. I’ve worked with professional and Division I athletes, pregnant and postpartum women, and clients of all ages—from children and adolescents to adults. I hold a Certificate of Training in Adult and Pediatric Obesity (Commission on Dietetic Registration) and I’m certified in the Low Fodmap Diet for IBS management. I provide personalized, evidence-based support tailored to your needs.
(551) 365-7752 View (551) 365-7752
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Caitlyn Fergerson
Nutritionist/Dietitian, RDN, MEd, LDN
Phoenix, AZ 85029
Would you like help working on your relationship with food and your relationship with your body? There are so many confusing nutrition messages out there and no single plan works for every person. If you're looking for a dietitian with varied experience and a nonjudgemental approach, I would love to talk with you. With a whole-person approach, I meet people where they're at and help them set reasonable, attainable wellness goals. I use a non-diet, trauma-informed approach with HAES (Health at Every Size) alignment and Intuitive Eating at the forefront.
Would you like help working on your relationship with food and your relationship with your body? There are so many confusing nutrition messages out there and no single plan works for every person. If you're looking for a dietitian with varied experience and a nonjudgemental approach, I would love to talk with you. With a whole-person approach, I meet people where they're at and help them set reasonable, attainable wellness goals. I use a non-diet, trauma-informed approach with HAES (Health at Every Size) alignment and Intuitive Eating at the forefront.
(520) 595-4179 View (520) 595-4179
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Pam Wagner
Nutritionist/Dietitian, RD, CDCES, LD
Serves Area
I personalize your Nutrition experience - and provide the expertise you're looking for. Offering both in-person and tele-health visits, your personal dietitian is just a click away. Specializing in Pre-diabetes and Diabetes. Want to feel better, stronger and live more fully? Do you have a health goal to achieve? I can help! I use the latest technology and science to help you achieve lifelong results. No products or supplements to buy - you are contracting a professional dietitian who will build a personal program just for you.
I personalize your Nutrition experience - and provide the expertise you're looking for. Offering both in-person and tele-health visits, your personal dietitian is just a click away. Specializing in Pre-diabetes and Diabetes. Want to feel better, stronger and live more fully? Do you have a health goal to achieve? I can help! I use the latest technology and science to help you achieve lifelong results. No products or supplements to buy - you are contracting a professional dietitian who will build a personal program just for you.
(702) 904-8551 View (702) 904-8551
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Jennifer Anthony
Nutritionist/Dietitian, MS, RD
Chandler, AZ 85225
You might feel stuck in cycles of dieting, food guilt, or an all-or-nothing mindset around eating or movement. Maybe you’re managing stress, digestive issues, high cholesterol, diabetes, or you simply want to feel better both physically and mentally. You’re looking for a new approach—one that builds confidence, balance, and peace with food while supporting your overall well-being.
You might feel stuck in cycles of dieting, food guilt, or an all-or-nothing mindset around eating or movement. Maybe you’re managing stress, digestive issues, high cholesterol, diabetes, or you simply want to feel better both physically and mentally. You’re looking for a new approach—one that builds confidence, balance, and peace with food while supporting your overall well-being.
(928) 323-0542 View (928) 323-0542
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Cassie Tolman
Nutritionist/Dietitian, PBNC
Phoenix, AZ 85044
As a plant-based chef (embracing all eating preferences- from vegans to carnivores and everyone in between!) with a big appetite for delicious, wholesome, locally grown food, I have spent over 20 years exploring the connection between food, well-being, community, and the planet. I believe food should be as joyful as it is nourishing. That’s why I help you cultivate a healthy, intuitive relationship with food, listening closely to what your body truly craves. I blend holistic nutrition with culinary creativity to empower you to make nourishing, mindful, and delightful food choices that align with your unique health goals & values.
As a plant-based chef (embracing all eating preferences- from vegans to carnivores and everyone in between!) with a big appetite for delicious, wholesome, locally grown food, I have spent over 20 years exploring the connection between food, well-being, community, and the planet. I believe food should be as joyful as it is nourishing. That’s why I help you cultivate a healthy, intuitive relationship with food, listening closely to what your body truly craves. I blend holistic nutrition with culinary creativity to empower you to make nourishing, mindful, and delightful food choices that align with your unique health goals & values.
(520) 683-3536 View (520) 683-3536
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Tanille Smith
Nutritionist/Dietitian, RD, CD, CEDS-C
Serves Area
Do you struggle with dieting or an eating disorder? I'm here to help! My goal is to help people better their relationship with food and body by helping them embrace intuitive eating principles such as reject the diet mentality, recognize and honor their body's natural cues, making peace with food, etc. I am an anti-diet, health at every size (HAES) promoting registered dietitian who is also a certified eating disorder registered dietitian with the international association of eating disorder professionals (IAEDP).
Do you struggle with dieting or an eating disorder? I'm here to help! My goal is to help people better their relationship with food and body by helping them embrace intuitive eating principles such as reject the diet mentality, recognize and honor their body's natural cues, making peace with food, etc. I am an anti-diet, health at every size (HAES) promoting registered dietitian who is also a certified eating disorder registered dietitian with the international association of eating disorder professionals (IAEDP).
(801) 769-0637 View (801) 769-0637
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Kelli Jo Grover
Nutritionist/Dietitian, MDA, RDN
Serves Area
Kelli Jo has worked as a dietitian helping those who suffer from eating disorders for the last 9 years at all levels of care. Kelli Jo has worked with extensive medical complications, including gastroparesis, bariatric surgeries, allergies, enteral feedings, autoimmune disorders, diabetes, EDS, SMA, POTS, Kelli Jo has also worked with individuals who struggle with co-occurring BPD, DID, OCD, substance abuse, and other addictions. She works with individuals with significant trauma and understands how this impacts one's relationship with food and body.
Kelli Jo has worked as a dietitian helping those who suffer from eating disorders for the last 9 years at all levels of care. Kelli Jo has worked with extensive medical complications, including gastroparesis, bariatric surgeries, allergies, enteral feedings, autoimmune disorders, diabetes, EDS, SMA, POTS, Kelli Jo has also worked with individuals who struggle with co-occurring BPD, DID, OCD, substance abuse, and other addictions. She works with individuals with significant trauma and understands how this impacts one's relationship with food and body.
(801) 692-3055 View (801) 692-3055
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Alisha Beardslee
Nutritionist/Dietitian, MS, RD, CNS
Glendale, AZ 85308
ResparkleU sets you on a path to feel better, look your best and experience radiant living! Together, we'll work to boost energy levels, reduce pain & inflammation, alleviate frustration, discomfort and embarrassment of digestive issues, Tackle food allergies & sensitivities, manage stress and it’s effects, Drop unwanted pounds and end the diets. You'll encounter a fun, inspirational style in either personal 1:1 consults or group classes. We'll customize a nutrition plan to fit you using multiple tools: body composition, metabolic and micronutrient testing, detox/cleansing, pharmaceutical grade nutrition supplements and more.
ResparkleU sets you on a path to feel better, look your best and experience radiant living! Together, we'll work to boost energy levels, reduce pain & inflammation, alleviate frustration, discomfort and embarrassment of digestive issues, Tackle food allergies & sensitivities, manage stress and it’s effects, Drop unwanted pounds and end the diets. You'll encounter a fun, inspirational style in either personal 1:1 consults or group classes. We'll customize a nutrition plan to fit you using multiple tools: body composition, metabolic and micronutrient testing, detox/cleansing, pharmaceutical grade nutrition supplements and more.
(480) 637-2014 View (480) 637-2014
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Amy Stevens
Nutritionist/Dietitian, RDN, LRD
4 Endorsed
Serves Area
Amy is a Registered Dietitian who practices at Health Loft. She specializes in personalized dietary guidance and evidence-based nutrition strategies. Her mission is to empower individuals and communities to achieve optimal health through sustainable lifestyle changes. Amy mentors, educates, and inspires clients to make informed nutrition and wellness decisions, believing lasting change is built through patience and a strong client-provider relationship. She is honored to be part of your wellness journey.
Amy is a Registered Dietitian who practices at Health Loft. She specializes in personalized dietary guidance and evidence-based nutrition strategies. Her mission is to empower individuals and communities to achieve optimal health through sustainable lifestyle changes. Amy mentors, educates, and inspires clients to make informed nutrition and wellness decisions, believing lasting change is built through patience and a strong client-provider relationship. She is honored to be part of your wellness journey.
(240) 557-2068 View (240) 557-2068
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Olivia Jackson
Nutritionist/Dietitian, MS, RD, LD
4 Endorsed
Serves Area
Olivia is a registered dietitian dedicated to helping individuals of all ages take a non-diet approach to nutrition while honoring both their bodies and mental health. She specializes in eating disorders, disordered eating, and intuitive and mindful eating, providing a safe space for clients to explore and challenge difficult food beliefs. Olivia believes in meeting clients where they are in their relationship with food and body to support meaningful, lasting change. She enjoys helping clients discover what healthy eating looks like in their own lives and creating a realistic sense of balance.
Olivia is a registered dietitian dedicated to helping individuals of all ages take a non-diet approach to nutrition while honoring both their bodies and mental health. She specializes in eating disorders, disordered eating, and intuitive and mindful eating, providing a safe space for clients to explore and challenge difficult food beliefs. Olivia believes in meeting clients where they are in their relationship with food and body to support meaningful, lasting change. She enjoys helping clients discover what healthy eating looks like in their own lives and creating a realistic sense of balance.
(708) 332-8474 View (708) 332-8474
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Katie Campbell
Nutritionist/Dietitian, RD, LN
1 Endorsed
Serves Area
WHY does unsolicited nutrition advice seem to pop up everywhere!? If you’re feeling confused about how to truly nourish yourself, you’re not alone. My mission is to create a supportive space where you can reconnect with your body, navigate difficult emotions, and build a sense of self-worth that isn’t tied to food, weight, or athletic performance. Through nutrition counseling, we’ll work together to cut through the noise and address challenges such as disordered eating, emotional eating, fueling for sport, and negative body image so you can find peace with food and confidence in how you care for yourself.
WHY does unsolicited nutrition advice seem to pop up everywhere!? If you’re feeling confused about how to truly nourish yourself, you’re not alone. My mission is to create a supportive space where you can reconnect with your body, navigate difficult emotions, and build a sense of self-worth that isn’t tied to food, weight, or athletic performance. Through nutrition counseling, we’ll work together to cut through the noise and address challenges such as disordered eating, emotional eating, fueling for sport, and negative body image so you can find peace with food and confidence in how you care for yourself.
(406) 296-4733 View (406) 296-4733
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Catherine Hart
Nutritionist/Dietitian, RD
Serves Area
My ideal client is engaged and ready to participate. I’m patient and happy to take the time to build trust and collaboration, but I prefer working with people who want to do the work and communicate. I hope to meet clients with varied nutrition needs who understand that change takes time.
My ideal client is engaged and ready to participate. I’m patient and happy to take the time to build trust and collaboration, but I prefer working with people who want to do the work and communicate. I hope to meet clients with varied nutrition needs who understand that change takes time.
(346) 517-5716 View (346) 517-5716
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Courtney Kincannon
Nutritionist/Dietitian, RDN, LD
4 Endorsed
Phoenix, AZ 85016
Courtney is a Registered Dietitian at Health Loft. She understands that building fulfilling, long-lasting, healthful habits takes time and patience. She takes a whole-person approach, recognizing that nutrition and health are not one-size-fits-all. Courtney meets patients where they are and helps create a plan that makes the most sense for their lives.
Courtney is a Registered Dietitian at Health Loft. She understands that building fulfilling, long-lasting, healthful habits takes time and patience. She takes a whole-person approach, recognizing that nutrition and health are not one-size-fits-all. Courtney meets patients where they are and helps create a plan that makes the most sense for their lives.
(312) 940-3195 View (312) 940-3195
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Bailie Devlin
Nutritionist/Dietitian, MS, RD, LD
2 Endorsed
Serves Area
Bailie is a Registered Dietitian with experience in weight loss, eating disorders and performance nutrition. She believes food is medicine and is dedicated to helping you create a positive relationship with food and movement while working together towards your goals. Bailie believes nutrition is not one size fits all and works with the patient to develop customized care based on the their goals, needs and lifestyle.
Bailie is a Registered Dietitian with experience in weight loss, eating disorders and performance nutrition. She believes food is medicine and is dedicated to helping you create a positive relationship with food and movement while working together towards your goals. Bailie believes nutrition is not one size fits all and works with the patient to develop customized care based on the their goals, needs and lifestyle.
(816) 409-1516 View (816) 409-1516
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Megan Salazar
Nutritionist/Dietitian, RDN
Serves Area
Megan is a Registered Dietitian with over 12 years of experience that is passionate about helping you establish good nutrition so that you an soar in your purpose. After going through her own health journey, she embraces a holistic approach by addressing stress, sleep, hormone balance, and your relationship with your food and body, in addition to nutrition. Understanding that every body is different in needs and reactions to foods, she creates personalized nutrition programs that promote life-long habits and changes that create whole, optimal health outcomes.
Megan is a Registered Dietitian with over 12 years of experience that is passionate about helping you establish good nutrition so that you an soar in your purpose. After going through her own health journey, she embraces a holistic approach by addressing stress, sleep, hormone balance, and your relationship with your food and body, in addition to nutrition. Understanding that every body is different in needs and reactions to foods, she creates personalized nutrition programs that promote life-long habits and changes that create whole, optimal health outcomes.
(331) 259-8859 View (331) 259-8859
FAQs - About Nutritionists and Dietitians

How can I find a dietitian or nutritionist in 85234?

To find dietitians and nutritionists near you, input your city, town, suburb, zip code, or a provider's name in the search bar at the top of the page. From there, you can filter by specialty, treatment technique, and gender to find a dietitian or nutritionist who matches your needs.

When you visit a dietitian or nutritionist's profile, you can get a better idea if they're the right fit for you. Consider things like session cost, accepted insurance plans, and their location or telehealth options. If someone seems like a good match, you can email them or call the number on their profile. When speaking with a professional, pay attention to whether or not you feel comfortable in the conversation and how knowledgeable they are about your specific nutrition concerns. It may also be helpful to ask more about their general approach to nutrition and the training behind their credentials.

What is the difference between a dietitian and a nutritionist?

The terms dietitian and nutritionist are often used interchangeably. However, there are actually key credential differences between dietitians and nutritionists that are important to keep in mind when seeking a nutrition professional.

A registered dietitian (RD) or registered dietitian nutritionist (RDN) has earned at least a graduate degree from an accredited program, completed a supervised practice program, passed the Commission on Dietetic Registration exam, and continues their education regularly. The RD and RDN credentials are regulated by the Academy of Nutrition and Dietetics, the largest nutrition-related organization in the country. Only professionals who meet their standards can call themselves an RD or RDN and enjoy privileges like billing insurance. Additionally, RDs and RDNs can get board certifications in specialized areas such as gerontological nutrition (CSG), sports dietetics (CSSD), pediatric nutrition (CSP), renal nutrition (CSR), or oncology nutrition (CSO). They also need state licensure, which usually aligns with national requirements.

In contrast, the title "nutritionist" doesn't require any formal education or credentials; anyone can use the title of nutritionist, including those with very limited or no formal training in nutrition. Although there are certification programs that are marketed toward those interested in nutrition counseling, the rigor and academic requirements for such programs varies greatly. These important differences between dietitians and nutritionists are thus very important to consider when choosing the right nutrition professional for your needs. To be listed in the HealthProfs directory, Nutritionists must have a minimum of a Masters Degree in a relevant field.

When should I see a dietitian or a nutritionist?

Clients seek nutritional support from dietitians and nutritionists for various reasons, ranging from medical conditions to lifestyle concerns like weight loss or dietary requirements; however, it's always important to find a professional who is a good fit for you. Consider factors such as insurance coverage, your specific medical or dietary concerns, and the availability of professionals near you to determine whether a dietitian or nutritionist may be a better fit.

Generally, nutritionists are not covered by insurance, whereas Registered Dietitians (RDs) often are, especially for those with medical conditions. If you have a chronic medical condition like cancer or kidney disease, you might want to seek out an RD with specialized expertise, such as a Board Certified Specialist in Oncology Nutrition (CSO) or a Board Certified Specialist in Renal Nutrition (CSR). These credentials indicate advanced education and a commitment to ongoing learning within a specific area. Additionally, consider the availability of professionals in your area and their openness to telehealth sessions. While the field of dietetics is growing, there may not always be a wide selection of professionals, especially in rural areas. In such cases, focusing on the experience and expertise of the nutrition professional can be more important than their specific credentials.

Do I need a referral to see a dietitian or a nutritionist?

A referral is not required to see a dietitian or nutritionist, and many individuals independently seek nutritional support without prior medical advice. However, for a nutrition service to be covered by insurance, a referral from a primary care physician or another medical professional may be necessary. In such cases, a referral is typically made for those who have been formally diagnosed with a medical condition requiring nutrition counseling, such as diabetes or hypertension. If insurance coverage is critical to a client's ability to see a dietitian, they should contact their insurance provider to determine if a referral is needed for nutritional counseling and to understand any potential co-pays or coverage limits that may apply in their individual circumstance.

How much does it cost to see a dietitian or a nutritionist?

The cost of seeing a dietitian or nutritionist depends on a number of variables, including their location, their specialty, whether they take insurance, and the professional's experience and training. On average, the cost of out-of-pocket sessions with a dietitian or nutritionist within the United States ranges from $50-$150. In some cases, nutrition professionals will require a longer initial evaluation session that will cost more than ongoing follow-up sessions. Dietitians and nutritionists may also offer packages for clients interested in longer-term nutritional support; in such cases, they may charge monthly or other periodic fees for more comprehensive services, such as a combination of nutrition sessions and out-of-session coaching support. If nutrition services are covered by a client's insurance plan and they are eligible for coverage based on any referral requirements, the out-of-pocket cost of seeing a dietitian may be completely covered or significantly reduced.

Are consultations with a dietitian or nutritionist covered by insurance?

If your insurance covers nutrition services, the cost is usually lower than paying out-of-pocket. However, insurance coverage can vary based on factors like your specific plan details, whether you choose an in-network or out-of-network provider, and whether you have a referral for nutrition services based on a medical diagnosis.

Coverage also depends on the type of nutrition service. Typically, insurance plans only cover services provided by a licensed Registered Dietitian (RD) and do not cover those offered by nutritionists or nutrition coaches without the RD credential. If nutrition services are not covered by your insurance, some dietitians and nutritionists may offer sliding scale rates or lower-cost services for clients who cannot afford their full fee. However, these spots are often limited and may not always be available.